HMD | June 2012

[these_balls]

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Comments

[fonic_sight]

I wasn't talking about it being broadcasted, I was talking about the act itself in terms of severity of the action. We once had a character literally trying to gut another character to see how much pain they could take and how far they could get to the "death" one could get in Route. It was sparked through a post (something else was broadcast near it), but they sat and played out the entire scene. I don't remember who the characters were, I just remember reading it. Yes, I understand that most people are having issues with the broadcast. But yes, we've had incidents of torture that have been worse than this.

There's enough of a workaround through word of mouth. If it's harmful to you, it's perfectly okay to find a workaround, even if it's through word of mouth.

However, with the current plot, this isn't much of a concern. While we figure that out, things will most likely be changed to a way where there will be little to no pressure on anyone to feel pressured to have their character be involved.

As for the punishment, not much of a punishment afterward would be necessary because it wouldn't be very relevant at the conclusion of the plot. Caster wasn't going to "get away" with it, it was merely being used as a plot device.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

again, i think very few people are having problems with the fact that a pretty horrifying thing happened. i personally do not have a problem with people playing out sensitive subjects. i have a problem with the fact that the sensitive material was publicly broadcast over the network instead of being done in a private log/network post between characters whose players had okayed their involvement beforehand. people should not be forced to bend character so they won't have to participate in a plot that's uncomfortable for them.

honestly, all that i think needs to be done is to make sure that future plots involving sensitive subject matter are contained only to people who want to be involved. like my initial suggestion that caster could make the plot post a private video geared towards robin, who would then contact characters whose players had opted in to the event. i think that would be a pretty good way to handle the rest of this plot-because, again, i am not saying NO TRIGGERY PLOTS EVER. they just have to be monitored and handled more carefully than other plots, that's all.

if that's what you have planned then welp i just threw a lot of things at you that you already knew, but i figured i would throw in my two cents on it. the initial post can't really be retconned out, but i think it would be a good process to have in the future.

[fonic_sight]

We plan on making sure future plots will have clearer and more defined ways around it so others won't feel as though they need to be involved if it makes them uncomfortable. This plot can be handled the same way; the post has currently been pulled, and, seeing as it's daytime hours for some of us, we can figure out where we are going with it. It's not too late for this to be retconned, seeing as the post hasn't even been around for 48 hours.

We're just not sure what we'll be doing with it yet, and that will take some time to figure out. Until then, the post is out of sight and can be considered not in existence until further notice.

[(Anonymous)]

oh! i didn't notice, that is actually one better than i was going for! i am glad to see that, then.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

ah, well. yeah, i know there were things that were comparable done in game before, sure. but i thought you literally meant there was something publicly broadcast that was comparable, which i would prolly remember if there had been which is why this stood out to me. i've never seen a post that had this many warnings and labels on it, which is a sign in itself. logs? yes. but never a open post that was open to everyone to watch and observe

tbh the fact that caster was apparently going to get away with it in the sense that he'd be set loose again and be able to pull it off multiple times is what really irked me about it. especially the detail of the player asking for the fact he was captured to not go public. that was just being way too unrealistic about the thing. there's no way anyone who was involved with that wouldn't be checking constantly to see if he has been caught... or even further that they wouldn't let everyone know he had been caught... especially considering the personalities of people like say... saber or shirou.

still, i'm glad you guys are taking a step back to adjust this. this could have blown up in a really bad way otherwise. like i said, this really just felt to me like the aftermath of this wasn't given enough consideration as much as the act of getting to do it was

still ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

actually, one more very important detail that i feel i want to mention

since there was going to be a police bulletin about this, doesn't it kind of make it hyper unrealistic that people wouldn't know about this and could ignore it? as i recall, police bulletins are forcibly broadcast on a character's gear, so that kind of makes it even more difficult to ignore the entire thing in a realistic way...

[fonic_sight]

The police bulletin wouldn't have been too descriptive as to keep from inciting public panic. However, it doesn't matter anymore.